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| + Majin Vegeta | May 25 2014, 06:29 PM Post #1 |
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Let's say that Buu Arc Goten turned SSJ4, how powerfull do you think he would be with all of he's potential unlocked? Where would you place him in the Buu Arc? |
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| AA500 | May 25 2014, 06:37 PM Post #2 |
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Near a form of Gotenks except SSJ3. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 25 2014, 06:56 PM Post #3 |
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If you think about it, SSj4 Goten would be 80x SSj Goten if you go by the 10x SSj3 multiplier for SSj4. I think that would put him roughly around SSj3 Gotenks. |
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| + Majin Vegeta | May 25 2014, 06:58 PM Post #4 |
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Well isn't SSJ4 a potential unlock like Majin and Mystic? |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 25 2014, 07:03 PM Post #5 |
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Even if it is, how could we possibly know how much hidden ki he has? There's no way to answer this accurately. In addition to this, Super Saiyan 3 was stated to be a "potential unlock" as well. (I hate that term by the way, because it's not accurate). Past his ability to master Super Saiyan quite easily, Goten himself is not seen to actually be that impressive when it comes to hidden reserves. He certainly can't be compared to his brother. However, in addition to this, I have no idea why people think that Super Saiyan 4 is attached in multiplier to the other SSj forms. If anything, a Super Saiyan version of the Oozaru would be 500x base (10x multiplied by 50x). SSj4 is not suggested to be stronger than Golden Oozaru, but it simply a form that's more efficient with ki and power usage, similar to the FPSSj not actually being different than the regular SSj, just more efficient; so the power output is higher. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 25 2014, 07:12 PM.
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| TheGmGoken | May 25 2014, 07:22 PM Post #6 |
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He would be the strongest ever besides fusion. Oh you didn't know!? Gt mean Goten Time. VIVA SON GOTEN |
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| Shinishi | May 25 2014, 07:36 PM Post #7 |
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I can't imagine that lol. SS4 is only for 100% saiyans (Goku and Vegeta). If i try to imagine that Goten can be SS4, so Trunks, Pan, Goku junior, Bra deserve to be like Goten. It's logic. |
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May 25 2014, 07:37 PM Post #8 |
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More like Gohan Time. Get out of here. Under SSj3 Gotenks works for me for the same reasons. |
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| + Majin Vegeta | May 25 2014, 07:42 PM Post #9 |
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Assassin@ I don't want an 100% accurate answer, I just want the opinions of everyone about he's placement
Edited by Majin Vegeta, May 25 2014, 07:43 PM.
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| + Solid Snake | May 25 2014, 07:51 PM Post #10 |
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There's nothing to suggest Goten to have inferior reserves compared to Gohan, he achieved SSJ far more easier of any Saiyan in history. And the fact that a rusty Gohan was near caught off guard by Goten's explosive power proves to me that he can outstrip his brother if he were given the same scenarios as him. A Super Saiyan 4 Goten imo, would come out as strong as SSJ3 Gotenks or a little more so to fit within his brother as well. |
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| Saberoph | May 25 2014, 08:08 PM Post #11 |
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Let's get things straight... During the Baby arc, Baby made it clear that he wanted to become a Super Great Ape, and showed NO desire to go SS4... he just wanted enough power to destroy SS4 Kakarrot... he never tried to go SS4 then went "Wait, what's wrong, why can't I Transform?" That was never the case. Super Great Ape Baby Vegeta had only one goal, and that's to destroy SS4 Kakarrot, and only that... nothing more. Yes, I realize that in the Evil Shenlong arc Vegeta and Bulma were trying to come up with a reason as to why Vegeta couldn't go SS4, but it's only best guess... they don't know what Baby was doing and how he wanted to go about it, where earlier Baby said he just wanted to become a Super Great Ape and that's it. |
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| Shinishi | May 25 2014, 09:25 PM Post #12 |
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I think that Baby's arc was just a reason for Vegeta after destruction of Baby by Goku to transform to SS4. Also, he was the only one who search to transform like Goku. Gohan or Goten or anyone else don't search to became SS4. I have many question without answer for example why all the mans of DBZ/DBGT (saiyans) can transform and Pan can't it? Her grand son Goku can transform also so no answer found... |
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| Saberoph | May 25 2014, 10:32 PM Post #13 |
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Well, honestly GT was mainly all about Kakarrot and Vegeta being the most powerful, even though it completely contradicts how we left Z. So, the reason Gohan, Goten and Trunks didn't even try going SS4 is pretty clear... only one officially had SS2 and none had SS3 and was still too far behind to even catch up. Also, how come this hasn't been moved to the GT section by now? Edited by Saberoph, May 25 2014, 10:35 PM.
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| TheMightiestWarrior | May 26 2014, 04:49 PM Post #14 |
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SSJ4 Goten imo would be below SSJ3 Gotens but above SSJ2 Gotenks. So there you have it. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 26 2014, 07:53 PM Post #15 |
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That doesn't really mean anything considering that we don't even really know what the requirement is for Super Saiyan are other than being at least from Saiyan descent. The original requirement was a pure heart awakened by rage, but even that's not accurate because Kid Trunks and Vegeta were both able to reach it. Vegeta stated that he was pure evil, but I doubt that because of the fact that he'd knocked up Bulma, and stuck around. He seemed more determined and arrogant than malicious and evil at this point in time. We never see any impressive power from Goten other than his ability to go Super Saiyan, so I think it's safe to assume that his hidden reserve isn't any more impressive than anyone else who is as strong as him. His ability from a plot perspective seems to lie particularly with his pairing with Trunks, and his ability to create Gotenks when he teams with Trunks. I can't see him ever gaining any notoriety by himself in the series because, unlike Gohan, the plot wouldn't call for it. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 26 2014, 07:57 PM.
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